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pruning roses
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blooming idiot Just Arrived

Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Location: central pa Posts: 1
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:12 am Post subject: pruning roses |
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hello from central pa.we are new to growing roses. when should we prune?
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Droopy Slug Slaughterer
 Joined: 11 Aug 2007 Location: Western Norway (Map) Posts: 3861 PlantStew: 3882 |
| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Hello, may I sit down here with you and wait for someone to come along and answer your question?
We prune in spring, when the danger of hard frosts is passed, but I know I should probably prune later in the season as well.
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PepperDude On The Way Up

 Joined: 28 Jun 2008 Location: Tishomingo, MS. zone 8 (Map) Posts: 216 PlantStew: 152 |
| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Well i'm not a pro but i think it would depend on the rose. Some roses bloom on new wood which i would prune in spring also but, if it blooms on old wood i'd wait till after it flowers.
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eileen Moderator & Resident Taxonomist

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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: |
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I prune mine hard in autumn before the danger of frosts and then again (more lightly)in spring if they need it. They get dead-headed in summer once they've bloomed. Hope this helps.
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Netty Chaotic Gardener
 Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Location: Southern Ontario zone 5 Posts: 4207 PlantStew: 4072 |
| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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I prune mine in the autumn too and then I trim the dead wood out in the spring.
I dead head them too until September when I allow the rose hips to form. This helps prepare it for the winter I am told.
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mjames2412 Just Arrived

Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Location: New York Posts: 6
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Late spring and early autumn always works for me!
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toni Mistress of Garden Junque

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Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Location: North Texas (Map) Posts: 4921 PlantStew: 520 |
| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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So far I only have a couple of Blaze climbers and three Freedom Hedge roses. The climbers I prune back whenever they need it and the hedge roses I lightly prune in fall....except for last year when they had been so stressed by heavy rain in spring then almost no rain for the rest of the year, I whacked them down to about 10 inches above the ground and they came back beautifully this spring.
I recently read that the old ways and thoughts about pruning roses are being set aside.
Lighten up on pruning of miniature and groundcover roses, they can become carefree climbers in a few years if left alone and only the dead wood is cut out when needed.
Even on hybrid teas severe pruning is not needed except to make the blooms larger and they will actually bloom sooner and more abundantly if pruned lightly.
Use hedge clippers when doing a severe pruning to keep the bush a specific size or under control. After they leaf out you can not tell the difference between those and the ones you prune cane by cane. Remove dead wood when needed tho.
And as far as deadheading, a rose trial at the Royal National Rose Society gardens in England demonstrated that if the dead rose is clipped off at the neck instead of further down the stem as has been the previous rule, the bush will rebloom sooner with 50 percent more flowers during the season.
_________________ "Blossom by blossom the spring begins."
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"A little Madness in the spring, is wholesome even for the King."
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gardengater Showing Great Promise

 Joined: 30 May 2008 Location: NC Posts: 515 PlantStew: 25 |
| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I've done the same - and thanks for the additional info, Toni. two of my bare root roses have remained small since putting them in last year. Does it take longer for these to grow into a larger bush?
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toni Mistress of Garden Junque

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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Gardengater, a bare root plant of any kind takes longer to start growing above the ground because it is spending the first year or so putting out good roots. Once those roots are well established then you will start seeing green growth.
_________________ "Blossom by blossom the spring begins."
Algernon Swinburne (1837-1909)
"A little Madness in the spring, is wholesome even for the King."
Emily Dickinson (1830-1886)
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Purpura Just Arrived

 Joined: 24 May 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 38
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I like the depends on the type of rose advice...
has your bareroot plants flowered?
some take a few years even for roses
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