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george09
NM
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:36 am   Post subject: Datura problem


Hi,

Am have a tough time this Spring with my Daturas. All the fresh leaves are covered in green aphids. I have used insecticide several times (specific against aphids), have used soap water, have removed them by hand. But, they seem to be indestructable. The Datura keeps loosing more and more leaves, and am also starting to loose the beginning flowers.

Next to the Datura I have Advocado, Pipa, chili peppers, basil, coriander, melons, but they are not being touched. The Datura must tast pretty darn good.

Please help !!!




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glendann

Texas
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:00 am   Post subject:


I have used dawn dish liquid and a small amount of vegetable oil.It seems to work.I have also used plain old homo milk it seems to work too.


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george09
NM
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:36 pm   Post subject:


Thanks, will give it a try and let you know.
By the way, the dish soap that I tried was Dawn. First tried with about 1 ts for 4 cups of water, when this didn't do anything, used 1 tbs, and still not any result.
What does the milk do? Is there a site that describes it in more detail?

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dooley

Texas
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:57 pm   Post subject:


Must be super aphids. I usually just wash my off with a mist from the hose. dooley

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george09
NM
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 7:20 pm   Post subject: Problem getting worse


My Datura lost all of its flowers but 2, and now, the little dirty rats have moved to these flowers. In the mean time, the Datura's leaves look more and more unhealthy (green/yellow dots) and every day I am loosing a few. Hereby a picture of one of these rats, taken with a macro, and a picture of a flower covered with them. Black ants have now also joined the family.

A few days ago, discovered black aphids / ants on my fava beans. Sprayed once with my Bayer killer, and done with them. Does anyone know if there is any difference between the green aphids and black ones?

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george09
NM
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:22 am   Post subject: pictures



Datura flowers ( photo / image / picture from george09's Garden )






aphids on Datura ( photo / image / picture from george09's Garden )






Datura flower covered in aphids ( photo / image / picture from george09's Garden )

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cuatro-gatos
Southern California
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:38 pm   Post subject:


Bring in the Ladybugs!

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george09
NM
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:22 pm   Post subject:


Indeed. Have thought about it too. Will have to ask our local Wilco, as I haven't seen any for sale yet.

Did some more research today, and found that insecticide resistant aphids are becoming a increasing threath. Many articles about potato aphids in england, and cotton aphids with us and Asia.
The resistance builds as aphids with genes that withstand the insecticide better survive and reproduce. As such they get stronger and stronger.
I sure hope they all taste as good to the ladybugs, or we will be getting a ladybug resistance too ...

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