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bsewnsew
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:41 pm   Post subject: Scanning and printing old photos on computers.......


Does anyone know if this is true or hearsay.
The printers that make our photos here at home, do not have a permanent on them??
In otherwards the arent permanent inks?

thanks ..
I advised my son to get a photographer photos of his child. To be sure.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:57 pm   Post subject:


I know that the ink in my printer isn't permanent Barb. Any little drip makes the colors run. Maybe the photo printer's are different, but I'm not sure.

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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:59 pm   Post subject:


I do alot of printing of my own photos, using ink that is made for photos and photo paper. Have never had any problems. It may take a few mins for the ink to dry...but shouldnt be any problems....I did a series for my stepdaughters prom and graduation....plus 2 of her friends...never had a complaint...
In fact you can get alot of different effects if the photography uses digtal and some photo programs....Should be fine

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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:05 pm   Post subject: in a long run


I dont mean now.

I am saying like 15 20 years from now.. Not today .

Future..
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:18 pm   Post subject:


I'm not sure what it will be like 20 years from now. We have some professional pictures that are fading. Ones that have been stored away from light and sun, too. The ones that I do on my Canon printer that came with my camera have to dry and then there isn't a problem with them. I get some done at Costco photoshop and they don't look any different than mine do, just more convenient. So, twenty years from now they may be faded too. Dooley

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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:18 pm   Post subject:


I understood what you meant...and yes with all the new advances in digital and the right equipment...They will last for years...Just like with all photos, as long as they are treated with care, you will have memories to last a lifetime... Sorry if I didnt explain it right the first time....

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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:22 pm   Post subject: What I meant


Well the people at the computer shop told me ond day.
They have yet to invent a permanent ink for the computers..

Thats all..
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:28 pm   Post subject:


Okay...then I guess we have heard two different stories....I was told it was permanent if it was made just for photos...
So, maybe I was lead down the wrong path...Now I am just as curious about it as you are...LOL.....Lets see if anyone else has heard, if it is or not.

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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:46 am   Post subject: No problem......Just caution folks if it is memories they


Pays to know the facts in case ....That might destory memories.

Now the thing I have now cds where I put the photos on , and have had a computer with the 3/4 square disks, this newer computer doesnt have a slot for the the squares......SO those are no good if the old computer is gone.. I still have it tho.

Wee.......I think I will slowly drive me to the funny farm..;o)

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:23 pm   Post subject:


Here's a good article on Archival Quality printers.
http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/content/buyersguide/bg_choose_printer3.shtml

Keep in mind that ALL photos will age over time and your best bet is to put them in acid-free photo albums (NOT those magnetic sticky things) or scrapbooks and keep them away from direct light.

As for your disks, I'd recommend you find someone soon that can transfer all those files to a DVD or CD before it gets really hard and/or expensive to find someone with "floppy" drive to do it.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:51 pm   Post subject: ok


Thanks for the advice.......I will check with my sister on that one..
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:45 am   Post subject:


A friend of mine had a photography business for about 35 years. When home printers started to get popular, he noticed that prints from various printers would start to fade after just a couple of years. He decided to find out why. In prints from a conventional photo lab, the dyes that create the print are in an emulsion. The layers of the emulsion (each color is a separate layer) provide some protection from ultraviolet light, but the UV, heat, and humidity will still fade the print over time. Prints in a frame fade slower because glass helps block UV rays. Simple computer printers put the inks on the top of the paper and no protection from UV is provided. Heat also breaks down the inks used in inkjet printers and the print will fade even when there's no light. The life of an inkjet print averages about 5 years. After that, the ink will start to fade either from UV or heat. Dye sublimation printers (much more expensive than standard computer printers) put down one layer of dye at a time and top that with a layer of plastic. The plastic adds some UV protection, but not a lot. The best thing you can do is put the images on an archival CD or DVD, but be sure it's truly archival. Standard CD and DVD's will also deteriorate after 5 to 10 years. The metal layer will corrode and the CD or DVD will be useless. Archival CD's and DVD's cost a lot more (the metal layer contains gold to prevent corrosion), but they're guaranteed for a lot longer than CD and DVD players will be around. This brings up my last bit of advice. Copy your prized data to new technology when the old technology starts to fade. CD's are still around in their original state for now, but DVD's are changing. The old DVD's are being replaced by BluRay and HD-DVD. One of the two will replace the existing DVD system. Make sure the DVD's you create today will still be usable by your grandkids. In the year 1086 (or thereabouts) the Domesday Project was created. It was a complete census of England and everything was documented. Everthing was written on Vellum and is still usable. It was recently preserved and copied, but it lasted over 950 years. In 1986 the Doomsday Project was started. It lasted less that 20 years. An attempt was made to recreate the success of the original project, but everything was stored on Laserdisc. When the keepers of the data realized that laserdisc was obsolete, it took a while to find enough players to transfer all of the data. Players had to be purchased from various sources in various states of repair and refurbished so that the contents of the original discs could be transferred to newer technology. That technology is DVD's. Hopefully, steps are being taken to keep the media up to date. If not, in 20 years, the keepers of the data may find themselve scrambling to find enough DVD players to transfer the data to the latest and greatest system.


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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:33 pm   Post subject:


Yes, the various technologies are not permanent. But, the consensus among the artist group that I'm in (and these people make a living off printing their work either on a home computer or at a pricey printer) is that the best to date are the Epson printers that utilize Durabright inks.


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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:49 pm   Post subject: guess I was part right


Thanks .

I appreciate the story. That confirms my story.
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