Thank you Sjoerd, they both go out 4 times a day. We both go out together 3 times, hubby has barley and and i have berry, then i do the last walks by myself. I prefer to go out by myself, but that's how it is. In the past i would have loved to be a breeder, but there's so much I'd have to do. Talking to the vet yesterday about the health issues in the breed and he said that they've had 30 years to breed hip dysplasia out and they still haven't done it. Sometimes the hip scores with a x ray can be unpredictable. I don't know if you've seen this but we had 5 at one point. I used to be able to take 2 out together by myself ,but not the 2 that we have now, we're a bit older now.