Heirloom Vs Hybrid Veg

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  1. adam.ca

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    Hybrids have good sounding names like:

    Park's Whopper CR Improved Hybrid Tomato
    Park's Whopper II Hybrid Pepper
    Texas Super-Sweet Onion Plants

    they are way more expensive tho, has anyone tried Hybrid Veggies? how do they compare? should I buy some seeds and try some myself?


     
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  3. adam.ca

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    Here they are the same price as any other ! Parks Whopper are excellent and about the same tomato as the Super Fantastic !! I would not start with seed ! It does no better than the started plants and usually is not nearly as good ! The started plants are grown in optimum condition and in commercial greenhouses ! Your seed likely will not do as well and will take weeks to get to the same condition ! Just cut your wait time down and buy the started plants since you have a shorter growing season !
     
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    I grow both. They each have their place in the garden. It may depend on your location or whether you like to save seeds. How much production you want need or expect. Hybrids tend to produce more fruit sometimes they taste better sometimes they don't. Some are easier to grow than heirlooms some are harder to grow. But the seeds are more expensive than heirlooms seeds generally. The packet may be priced the same on a seed rack but you get far fewer seeds than an heirloom pack. I would never grow an heirloom corm for a sweet corn variety. Some hybrid tomatoes are total duds in the flavor dept or dependability for a crop (ultra pink tomatoes. They are great in the hightunnel but not in the garden) hillbilly tomatoes? If you want only one or two tomatoes they would be great and you like huge sloppy tomatoes....
     
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    the site I was on had the price of 20$ for these Hybrid seeds, but i think i was in the wrong section, cuz a little navigating revealed the same type for like 2.50$ which is more reasonable ...

    hmm i really like the idea of starting from seed for some reason, I'm buying some second hand grow lights this weekend, but maybe i'll buy a couple off the shelf from the store when the time comes, and compare my baby plant to a commercially grown baby.


    i'm looking for lots of tasty highly productive plants. I'll probably go buy some Hybrids and start thos too, first year will be about seeing which varieties work for me,
     
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    I grow both. They each have their place in the garden. It may depend on your location or whether you like to save seeds. How much production you want need or expect. Hybrids tend to produce more fruit sometimes they taste better sometimes they don't. Some are easier to grow than heirlooms some are harder to grow. But the seeds are more expensive than heirlooms seeds generally. The packet may be priced the same on a seed rack but you get far fewer seeds than an heirloom pack. I would never grow an heirloom corm for a sweet corn variety. Some hybrid tomatoes are total duds in the flavor dept or dependability for a crop (ultra pink tomatoes. They are great in the hightunnel but not in the garden) hillbilly tomatoes? If you want only one or two tomatoes they would be great if you like huge sloppy tomatoes....
     
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    My 2 bits worth.
    Seeds that I make myself often grow better than the parents. I like mostly to buy organic or heirloom varieties. Hybrids I try to make myself. The problem with the hybrids is that the first generation is really good, but the second and third generation may be wildly different. To achieve a new strain that resembles the first generation will take a minimum of five years and will require back crossing. And this is the fun. When you make your own seeds they will be adapted genetically to your garden.
     
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    I always have a bunch of tomatoes that come up from those that are over ripe and get tossed ! And every year I add a few of those to my garden ! Yes they are only salad size but they often have a better flavor than the hybrid that is larger ! They are perfect for salads, snacking, stir fry, ect without having to buy additional plants ! They store longer and I have even picked tomatoes from under a snowfall !
     
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    I use hybrid veggies every year...well, mostly hybrids and a few heritage ones. I do not intellectualize this subject for myself---I just make choices based upon what I like.
    Having said that, every year we try new to us types of this or that veg, just to see how they grow, how they produce and what the taste is. This is how we have found the yearly fav's that we grow without fail (if the seeds are still to be found).
     
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