Question about rose care & pruning, advice wanted

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  1. Cayuga Morning

    Cayuga Morning Strong Ash Plants Contributor

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    Hi all,

    Despite the fact that I have 5 roses on my home property and a sixth one at the Community Garden, i have never studied up on how to take care of them. They all just fend for themselves.

    I thought this was just fine, but maybe it isn't so great.

    Here is Abraham Darby. I love the flowers, but
    he has always flopped badly. The stems aren't strong enough to hold up the blooms. Should I be pruning this guy in some way to get stronger stems? The only reason the upper blooms are not flopping is that I have staked them. PXL_20210608_115206315.MP_compress21.jpg

    If pruning will help, when is the best time to do it? Next spring? How do I do it?

    Next question:. This rose is Yellow Simplicity.
    The only pruning I have ever done is to cut out dead canes. But I really don't like it's shape. It's sticking up like it thinks it's a pool cue. Too tall for the other plants around it. So, similar question when & how do I prune it? PXL_20210608_115438297_compress83.jpg
    On second thought maybe it's taking it's "cue" from the patio umbrella. Do roses "imprint themselves" on the nearest object like ducks do?

    Here it is again:. See it's bare legs? Maybe it thinks it's a banty rooster. PXL_20210608_115430093_compress86.jpg
     
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    Sjoerd Mighty Oak

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    I hesitate commenting on this subject because it can be a bit precise.
    Here, I prune my roses in the early spring. That window has passed.
    But where on the stems and ‘how’ is the sticky part. The pruning has to do with what shape you want to achieve among other things.
     
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    Cayuga Morning Strong Ash Plants Contributor

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    Next spring then. I was assuming that. I guess I'll turn to the web for advice. Thanks
     
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    Dirtmechanic In Flower

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    Cutting the long stemmed roses is something I am learning now. I have 5 hybrid teas and they are just odd. I see they have a ebb and flow in the growing season as they produce flowers and fade back. You have some large blooms that make me think they are so hybridized that they cannot exist without your support.
     
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    Not sure about the first one but the yellow one you can cut the stems back after the flowers have finished on that stem. Cut it to a bud in the leaf axle about 5 leaves down, you could cut it back a bit more than that. In the spring you can cut it back more about 20 inches from the base, we usually do it in march but it could be april.it might be a tall variety that grows up straight.
     
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    Just looked up the first one Abraham Darby, it's a David Austin shrub rose that can be used as a small climber.But if you want it as a bush just prune it in spring like the other one, some roses are inclined to have floppy flowers as if the flowers are too heavy for the stem.
     
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    Thanks Logan. I'll cut the stems back more after the bloom, then plan on pruning them come spring time.

    Re Abraham Darby, I'll do the same. I think it just is a flopper. I'll try to wind it in the fence for more support new spring.
     
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    Your welcome:)
     
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