Okay, first, I have not done a jar test, I will soon to determine soil content. My lawn is horrid although not as bad as it could be. I had been weeding and killing weeds over the last 2 months. I have bald bare spots that simply seen not to grow anything, not even weeds grow there. The rest of it is some sort of grass and some sort of thick blade other that could be crabgrass but all the images I google do not match. It grows in clumps but more like a grass than crabgrass. Could be a rye or johnson grass but I going to do all I can to get rid of it. Now here are the details on what I have for soil. 2 inches of soil that is somewhat workable, content not know yet. Below that is a layer of the fill that everyone uses here. It is HORRID! hard compacting soil that has small, medium and up to golf ball sized rocks. A guess is clay and rock but the jar test will determine the content. I have started 3 patches of grass in the yard. #1, simply dug up top 2-3 inches, mixed in some peat, bone meal and fertilizer and planted. It did alright and is still noticeable as a separate patch although it is getting mixed in some. I think it is spreading a little. #2 I grew a patch in a container, dug up the ground down 1 foot, filled with garden soil, soil amendment, peat, Coconut coir and some of the soil. Placed grass on top and let it be. It is growing really well even though have not watered it as much it probably should have been. I expect that this is the best option but even though my yard is smaller it would take me a couple months to do this by hand. Not to mention growing the patches in my limited space to try and fix the whole yard. #3 I did this today and have high hopes. I dug down about 6 inches and sifted the soil through a screen to remove the grass, roots and rocks. I then added coconut coir and mixed it in. I added bone meal and fertilizer mixed in the top inch or so and the planted it. I hope this works well because I could theoretically do this fairly quickly. The summer has been cool and mild but dry. The soil here is acidic as it rains a ton even though this summer has been dry. Here is the grass seed list I have been planting. I have been using 2 different bags of seed to try and cover the bases to try and get one or more to grow and spread. Bag 1) Pennington Ultimate seed brochtin tall fescue 34.3% rebel 4 tall fescue 34.3% shadow II chewing fescue 19.6% blue angel Kentucky bluegrass .69% Bag 2) Soctts Grass Seed Commercial Mix Tar Heel Tall Fescue 34.18% Siverstar Tall Fescue 29.29% Innovator Tall fescue 19.53% Dynamic II Tall fescue 14.65% I will post jar test results as soon as I have them to try and get content of my soil hashed out. My guess is a lot of clay. I do know that I have very few eathworms. I have done multiple tests to find them in my soil and they simply are not in my yard. Also, has anyone tried the baby shampoo treatment to fix a compacted yard that I read about on a couple forums and in a google search? I know I have to loosen the soil but I am open to all the help i can get. I like a soft green lawn that is easy to care for even if I have to mow it with the push rotary mower when it is wet in fall and winter and most other times in my area. Jar test photos to come, pictures of yard not likely due to ruining my image of having a descent green thumb.