A scary goat event

Discussion in 'Pets' started by CritterPainter, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. CritterPainter

    CritterPainter Awed by Nature

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,428
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    Washington State
    We are SO not used to hot temperatures around here, but the last thing I expected was this! I was filling my goaties water bucket, and no sign of Cecil- he usually sticks by Lucy Belle like a shadow. So I went searching through the scotch broom for him. Found him lying in the sun, and I couldn't see any sign of life. I knelt down by him, talking to him, thinking he was gone, and noticed his eyelids flutter. His breathing was very shallow and irregular. While I was wondering what to do next, I cradled his head in my arm and his eyes fluttered open. He slowly got to his feet, was apparently disoriented for about five minutes, then started munching on hay like nothing had happened. Now, I say all this because those of you who know will recognize right away the classic signs of a seizure- I've been witness to many, but never before in my goat! I'm suspecting the high temps, but after googling information, am beginning to wonder if I simply have an epileptic goat! Just another day on the funny farm, ack.
     
  2. Loading...

    Similar Threads
    1. Tooty2shoes
      Replies:
      10
      Views:
      1,168
    2. FlowerFreak22
      Replies:
      9
      Views:
      5,439

  3. diggerj

    diggerj New Seed

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2007
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    NE Tenn (zone 6)
    Cecil

    Does Cecil have relatives from Tenn.? There is a variety of goat grown here that faints when startled - the Tennessee Fainting Goat, of course. Just a thought. It is a genetic neurological disorder but the critters are usually healthy otherwise. :idea:
     
  4. CritterPainter

    CritterPainter Awed by Nature

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,428
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    Washington State
    Hi Digger, yes, I'm very familiar with the fainting goats and have always wondered if they are not actually having a type of siezure- have never observed the behavior of one after a "fainting spell".
     
  5. diggerj

    diggerj New Seed

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2007
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    NE Tenn (zone 6)
    Yes Critter, I would call it a seizure as the goat drops to the ground and remains motionless for a short period (maybe like a petit mal). My exposure has been only through TV and there was a recent filler on the subject on local news. Seems as if the degree of stimulus to initiate a seizure varies with each goat, at least according to the program. The duration is quite short and, again, the goat seems to have no ill effect from the experience.
     



    Advertisement
  6. cajunbelle

    cajunbelle Daylily Diva

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2006
    Messages:
    3,266
    Likes Received:
    31
    Location:
    zone 8b Louisiana
    Mary, I am glad Cecil appears to be ok. Could it have been a heatstroke.
     
  7. CritterPainter

    CritterPainter Awed by Nature

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,428
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    Washington State
    Checked into that, but his membranes around his eyes and gums looked fine, and he wasn't clammy 'tall. Just don't know, I'm keeping a close eye on him for a few days, until this inhuman heatwave passes.
     
  8. zuzu's petals

    zuzu's petals Silly Old Bat Plants Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2006
    Messages:
    2,604
    Likes Received:
    105
    Location:
    Coastal N.C. ~zone 8ish~
    Poor Cecil . . . :eek: . . . poor YOU!!
    That would have scared me half to death! :(
    I'm so glad that Cecil seems to be fully recovered.
     
  9. eileen

    eileen Resident Taxonomist Staff Member Moderator Plants Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2005
    Messages:
    27,646
    Likes Received:
    4,017
    Location:
    Scotland
    Oh dear Mary that's a bit of a worry for you. It certainly does sound as though Cecil is an epileptic goat. Thing is they can swallow their tongues during a saeizure and if ther'e no-ne on hand ... well. Hope that it's just been an isolated incident maybe aggravated by the heat. :(
     
  10. Frank

    Frank GardenStew Founder Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2005
    Messages:
    17,381
    Likes Received:
    1,441
    Location:
    Originally Galway, Ireland
    Poor Cecil. I wonder if it was anything like this Mary? :

    [youtube]XOf30xcDWS0[/youtube]
     
  11. toni

    toni Mistress of Garden Junque Staff Member Moderator Plants Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2006
    Messages:
    19,220
    Likes Received:
    4,536
    Location:
    North Central Texas, Zone 8a
    How scary for you Mary.

    If it is a fainting goat, it is a muscular thing not a seizure. Myotonia congenita, it's a condition in which the muscle cells experience prolonged contraction when the goat is startled, they haven't really fainted they just can't move because of the muscle contractions. You could check into his heritage to see if any of his ancestors were full blood fainting goats.

    But whatever it is, I hope it doesn't happen again.
     
  12. stratsmom

    stratsmom Flower Fanatic

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2006
    Messages:
    4,085
    Likes Received:
    693
    Location:
    Southern Oregon
    Mary, how hot have you been? I'm in Southern Oregon and I know the heat has really messed with me :( Hubby and I were replacing water lines last Saturday and the combination of heat & sun about did me in. Maybe Cecil is a fair weather goat, like me :D
    Deanna
    :-D
     
  13. glendann

    glendann Official Garden Angel

    Joined:
    May 19, 2006
    Messages:
    9,512
    Likes Received:
    129
    Location:
    Texas
    I'm glad Cecil is doing better.I do hope its not a thing that keeps coming back.
     
  14. CritterPainter

    CritterPainter Awed by Nature

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,428
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    Washington State
    Cecil is a purebred Nubian. Eileen, the "swallowing the tongue" thing is an urban myth. With my daughter's siezures we would roll her on her side (no mean feat when it was grand mal) just to be on the safe side, but her neurologist assured us this was good more for keeping her from aspirating. Cecil seems to be just fine today, btw, and it's waaay hotter than yesterday.
    Deanna, you have my full sympathies! I have an aunt in, oh, whatever the place with the Shakespear festivals are is, and I love driving through there. But the temps, ouch! It's 88 right now, supposed to top 100 later.
     
  15. stratsmom

    stratsmom Flower Fanatic

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2006
    Messages:
    4,085
    Likes Received:
    693
    Location:
    Southern Oregon
    She must live in Ashland! It is a beautiful place!! I'm about 1 hour west of her, just over the Cascades :-D
    Deanna
    :-D
     
  16. CritterPainter

    CritterPainter Awed by Nature

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,428
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    Washington State
    That's right, I keep mixing it up with Ashford, the company that made my spinning wheels, lol! Egads, must be much hotter on your side
     

Share This Page