Baby Rose from Seed Needs Relocating

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  1. cherylad

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    Philip suggested that I move my baby rose that I started from seed outdoors.

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    rose from seed ( photo / image / picture from cherylad's Garden )

    Hmmmmm...outdoors. Let's see.... where could I put it where it would be protected from the sun and wind? I do have a spot on the front porch in a corner. It does get just a tad of direct sunlight in the morning.
    Here's some photos of the area from last year.
    Does this look like a good place to put it?






    Front porch (taken on 5/23/10 10:30am)

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    new bed - filling in ( photo / image / picture from cherylad's Garden )


    Corner Stand where it could be placed... (not the top part though... a Wren has moved in there).


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    I have never grown a rose from seed, You Are Good!!
    I would put in the bottom holder of that corner stand for the rest of this summer. As intense as the sun is this time of the year you don't want the baby to fry. Maybe put it on the porch corner just in the early morning for a couple of hours on days when you are home and can move it before mid day.

    Then this fall when the sun heads south and isn't as intense you could leave it in a sunny spot a little longer each week until you have to bring it inside for the winter.
     
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    I'm not good... just lucky!
    And usually there's only bad luck when it comes to me and roses. :rolleyes:

    I don't want to shock it, so I'll plan on moving it this weekend when I'm home all day. That way I can keep an eye on the sun patterns and move it if necessary.

    Do I want it to get a little bit of direct sunlight? Or none at all?
     
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    Has it been inside under a grow light or in the window?
    If it isn't used to direct sun, then go real slow introducing it since it is so small and the sun is intense. Early morning sun would be best.
     



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    It was under a grow light until around Feb. or March. Since then it's been sitting on a table in the laundry room. It is not getting any direct sunlight. But it is bright in there... one window and a glass door.
     
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    Hi Cheryl,
    looks like a good spot,..in the front porch,..in the corner,..as its not going to be too breezy,..very cold or excessively overheated,..at that size they are very vulnerable,..to anything you can name that hits roses,..but mostly in pots and while they are seedlings,.. its the dreaded "Damping-Off",..where the stem roots rot at the soil surface,..that's the culprit when they are seedlings.
     
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    I remember on another posting, I believe by Jane, about mixing baking soda and water and spraying the seedling to prevent damping off? Does that sound right?
    I may have to ask her or look up the old post.
     
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    Hi Cheryl,
    "Damping-Off",..tends to be as a result of over moist soil,..or over watering!,..rose growers use a copper based fungicide,..i never heard about the Bread Soda,..but there are many alternatives so if you can get the mixture measurements from Jane that would be good.
     
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    Just put the baby rose outside this morning.
    I put it on the middle shelf. It got direct sun from around 8:15-8:30.
    The bottom shelf got sun from around 8am-9:30am.
    Keep it on middle shelf with a bit of direct sun... or move to the bottom to get more sunlight?
     
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    Which direction does that porch face? If West, then I would leave it where it is until the end of summer to keep the intensity of the sun from burning it.
     
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    Faces East.
    I should have mentioned that.
     
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    I would put it on the lower shelf then, plenty of sun without the intense heat.
     
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    Just went and got a photo of it.
    Not sure if this is what's known as "damping off" or not.
    But the stem from the soil line to the first set if "branches" is brown. From there on up it's green.
    Cause for concern... or normal?


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    and I found Jane's "recipe" for seedlings that are damping off.
    1 tsp baking soda to 1 cup of water and spray as mist.

    Thanks Toni...
    I was thinking that the middle shelf wasn't getting enough light... practically total shade.
    Where it was in the laundry was much brighter than on the porch.
     
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    Hi Cheryl,
    i do hope that's not Damping Off,..but were it mine i would build up soil to just above the brown so that if it is Damping Off the seedling might root from the next shoot,..you have nothing to lose by doing this.
     
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    Thanks Philip... I'll try to remember to "bring up" the soil first thing in the morning. Does the amount of direct sunlight seem okay?
    Day two and It hasn't shown any stress from being moved outdoors.
    Fingers crossed that it will be okay.
     

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