Fairy Rose question

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  1. AAnightowl

    AAnightowl Young Pine

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    A few years back, I bought a Fairy Rose. I don't remember where. I don't recall anything on the tag saying how huge it would grow. It is now very huge, maybe 6 feet or more across, and at least that tall. It has outgrown its sideways area to grow in. (It has also been very slow about the profuse blooms it promised.)

    It is currently full of buds and a few blooms so far this season.

    I was wondering, can I dig some of it up, and move it to another location? I don't wish to kill it, but it is very overgrown where it is, and maybe not done growing?

    It gets small pink blooms with lots of petals like an old fashioned rose only small.

    I sometimes buy rose bushes around my birthday. Except for the David Austin roses, many of them die within a couple of years. This one, 2 David Austin roses, and a few others have thrived and done well (other than being slow about being "covered in blooms all summer".)

    I have another potted rose bush that said it would spread out royally, so it is in a large container, at least for now. I don't recall its name, but so far it is doing fine.

    I did not buy any roses this year at all.
     
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    Hello AAnightowl. Reading your message I instantly became interested. ROSES. Firstly can I apologise for the lack of understanding the local language. No disrespects, but for instance despite all the written literature etc, and the American/British language. There is a difference. For instance. Dirt (US) Soil (UK).

    So you mention, 'A Fairy rose' Please can you exspand. Your mention of it having grown fast and now being gigantic, and having lots of buds and small flowers. This suggests to me, that it's a Rambler. Then splitting it up. Perhaps to cover most aspects here. NO. Roses are not splittable unless for instance. Some part of the plant has self layered, then it's possible to sever the new section along wit plenty of root.
    Mention of David Austin roses dying. Sadly all plants can end up this way, despite ones care and attention. A tip to remember. Just because your plant is well named. It remains a plant.
     
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    My David Austin rose and several others are doing well. Many roses that I buy are supposed to be grade 1, but they die anyway.

    Rosa 'The Fairy' (Polyantha Rose) (gardenia.net) Here is a link about the Fairy Rose. It is a kind of rose. Apparently, mine is quite happy here, and I have no intentions of killing it. I think I got it at a grocery store for a few dollars, and it was a grade 1 1/2 when I bought it. I don't know about in the UK, but here the best roses (like David Austin's) are grade 1. My David Austin roses are Queen of Sweden and St Swithun's, and climbers.

    (Sorry if my American English confuses you. I get to wondering about some of the Brittish-isms that are common in the UK. What is a "lottie"? I suppose it is one's garden, but it gives the idea that an individual might not own it?)

    I will have to get down on my hands and knees to weed under this bush. We have several kinds of poison snakes here in the US, one of which is a copperhead. The bite is very painful, and sometimes a person can die from its bite. Do you have snakes in the UK? I have been bitten by copperheads twice, and nearly died the second time, so I am not wanting to ever get bitten again! I will go in under the bush with a tool to make sure there are no snakes hiding under my roses.

    Oh yes, my Fairy Rose did put on a huge display of blooms recently. I hope it will repeat such blooms, because that website says it is to bloom all summer long. I was wanting to give it some plant food, but not so much it grows even bigger. Right now it seems to be resting and only has a few flowers.

    Thank you for answering.

    ps, I use "dirt" and "soil" interchangeably. However, soil is usually the nice dirt in a garden, and dirt is just plain old filth and one needs a shower or to clean the house.
     
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    eileen Resident Taxonomist Staff Member Moderator Plants Contributor

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    Here in the UK we only have two types of snake and one that isn't really a snake. The two we have are Grass snakes and Adders - the third is a smooth snake which is actually a legless lizard. None are anywhere near as venomous as the snakes you have thankfully. An Adder can give you a fairly bad bite but few will die from it. Those that do tend to be allergic to the venom.
     
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    Dying from a copperhead bite is not common, but it does happen sometimes. It is extremely painful though, and people can have bad reactions to any medicine.
     
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    @MIKE ALLEN , do you know if my Fairy Rose can be pruned? I usually prune my roses, but other than occasional dead canes, I have not done any serious pruning on this one.

    I did dig up a couple of small starts that were in the grass, and two out of three are doing good so far. Those are in pots until I am sure they will do well. That gives me time to pick another site for them to grow wild in.

    I think I will try to start some cuttings if I do prune it.

    I have one rose bush that is doing well which I grew from a cutting. I think it is a tea rose, and it is a burgundy color. I have two others like it. Each took a direct hit from a tree coming down in storms, at different times. The first one is recovering nicely and had a good amount of blooms this year. It was damaged when we had major flooding in 2017 and a 55 foot elm landed on it. The other one was damaged in 2020, when a large elm landed on it from a tornado. It is trying to recover and had 1 rose so far this year. I am pruning off dead wood, and giving them rose food to help them out. And I gave them some manure tea this year also. These burgundy roses came from Walmart some years ago.

    Most of my cuttings do not make it, but I try sometimes.

    Thanks.
     
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    Yes. Your rose can be pruned, in fact it will benefit by a seasonal prune. Most shrubs and the like tend to lose canes, branches etc for many reasons. If these are allowed to remain in situ they can harbour disease etc, plus of course, when growing whatever subject, we desire to see something pleasing to the eye. So even a cosmetic trim will be rewrading.
     
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    thank you Mike
     
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    Droopy Slug Slaughterer Plants Contributor

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    A lottie, as Sjoerd has, is indeed an allotment garden, or a community garden.

    Oh, poor dear! Yes, please use a tool to check for snakes before weeding. The only thing hiding underneath our bushes are cats, hedgehogs, the occasional carcass of rodent or bird the neighbour cats caught and saved for later, bugs, and weeds. Like Eileen we only have two snakes and a legless lizard in this country. The adder is common around here, but usually higher up in the woods or low mountain sides.
     
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    I don't mind getting down on my hands and knees, it is the snakes that I mind. I will definitely use my claw tool. It resembles a hoe, but with 4 bent tines instead. I have not yet had a chance to work on that project.
     
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    So, when one has a "lottie" like @Sjoerd does, does that mean everyone shares the produce that grows? And the work, I would hope.

    Some cities in the US have community gardens. I saw a picture of a nice one in Detroit on FB recently. I have no idea how that project works.

    I think most people in the US that garden, have their own gardens.
     
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    Sjoerd has his own plot at the gardens, and his neighbour allotment gardeners. They do the work and enjoy the fruit of their labour of their own pieces of land. It's like your own garden but you rent it instead of owning it.

    I don't know about the community gardens in the USA either. We have community gardens here, but they're similar to the ones Sjoerd has. Small garden plots that people rent but it's owned by the municipality.
     
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